One thing none of us can watch is Burke’s own presentation of the Moon Landing, because the BBC did not see fit to keep the tapes (there are rumours they were recorded over with horse racing). “It didn’t matter, in a sense, because all that got lost was me and Patrick Moore,” says Burke, humble as ever.

“The Nasa originals were not wiped. But the BBC tapes themselves – well you know, tough luck.” Is he really not bothered, I press. Burke smiles.

“That’s showbiz.”